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Trigun. Classic! Has anyone NOT seen Trigun? It would weird me out because Trigun was so incredibly popular around here. All the kids watched it when it was running on TV. Even the kids who never watched another anime ever-- those kids watched Trigun here where I live.

Trigun? It makes me want to be a better person.

A lot of it is dumb shit, stupid action, blowing stuff up, and Ridiculous Feats of Badassery. It's shonen from the 90s, what can you do. But of all the other anime that follow this stupid shonen model and try to teach you morals and whatnot-- Naruto and Bleach and whatever --none of them really touch Trigun in that regard. Naruto doesn't make me want to be a better person. Trigun does.

Goofy shonen hero who, despite badassery and the devil's reputation, refuses to kill. Rurouni Kenshin? I think Trigun is better than Rurouni Kenshin. Kenshin is repenting for his crimes of the past. Vash has never killed in his entire damn life. Put that way, Kenshin is more selfish than Vash. Vash is so good and pure that it hurts you and makes you feel ashamed that you aren't as good of a person as you could be.

Also... Knives vs. Vash-- the greatest anime adversaries of all time?! Like, don't get me wrong, the only reason I ever gave two shits about Naruto was Naruto and Sasuke because omg, those two are lovely. But Knives and Vash top it. Top it soooo much.

Go, Vash, go! Save Gunsmoke with your LOVE AND PEACE.

I want to write for Trigun, I honestly do, but plot-wise it is very neatly tied up by the end. There's only one "big" avenue to explore once it's over so of course it's played out.

...also, lololol, English dub for Vash = Johnny Yong Bosch. So of course I have my moments of rofl'ing while comparing Lelouch and Vash and trying to imagine Lelouch making a peace sign and saying that the world IS MADE OF LOVE AND PEACE.

[/just got done rewatching after many years. No one to express feelings to.] This isn't me reccing because I think it's obscure or something, not by any means. This is just me venting the awesome. ...but if you haven't seen it, omg that's weird, but also, go watch it! Gee!

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Date: 2011-09-18 05:17 pm (UTC)
ext_861739: @ nefadol (Donuts)
From: [identity profile] shirogiku.livejournal.com
[/coming late to the party]

That scene with Rem, chibi!Vash, chbi!Knives and the spider is one of those clearly engraved in my fickle memory. And the ending, oh... No good will ever come of that.

But Wolfwood is my favourite and I cried when he died. I did cry for Lelouch too, feel free laugh at my standarts. [/admires heroes, but loooves antiheroes and villains, what]

Legato was quite a psycho charmer too, btw.

The funny part with Vash is that he has 0 sympathy for his own species, locked up for eternity and farmed for energy (neither does Knives, but okay). Raised by humams, only cares about humans.

Date: 2011-09-18 08:53 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] rex-sun.livejournal.com
I think a lot of folks like Wolfwood because he's closer, as a person, to most of the viewers. I'm somewhere between Wolfwood and Vash, myself, and while I really like Wolfwood, I feel the same disappointment Vash feels in him. His death scene is greatness, though. I love him clutching to the cross in the church.

As for Legato... I don't understand the fascination with him, honestly. ^^;; As I said above, I think he does his job as a villain in the show. His visual design is cool. But his powers are too godmode in my mind and his logic makes noooooo sense. He's powerful enough to kill all these humans. Knives wants to kill the humans. If Legato hadn't pushed Vash, he wouldn't die. So... Why not just do it? Makes no sense. The moment when he spares the girls in the saloon? ...WHY? I don't get it, and he is nowhere near charming to me.

...oh, his personality is sort of like Schneizel's, I guess. And I hate Schneizel. Idk. I don't like passionless characters. But uh, if anyone can explain why these guys are appealing, be my guest! Do their lady-charming ways make your female hearts flutter? XD ;;

As for Vash not having sympathy for his own species, that's very untrue, sorry. His is shown to be very caring towards them, such as in the episode Lost July (when he empties a bottle of alcohol in the dead plant's honor, and says softly, "You were just tired"). Whenever he deals with other plants, he is very gentle and sympathetic.

However-- and I don't know whether my knowledge of the situation is colored by my reading of the manga or not --Vash and Knives are unique amongst plants. Most plants CAN'T leave their bulbs. They must stay in carefully controlled environments. Humans rely on them, they rely on humans. Without humans, plants have many malfunctions and often die. It is unknown whether most plants are even sentient (aware of their own plight)-- for one, that plant underground in the episode that Wolfwood was introduced. The plant was unaware that humans had died and kept on senselessly producing robots.

Date: 2011-09-18 09:14 pm (UTC)
ext_861739: @ nefadol (Default)
From: [identity profile] shirogiku.livejournal.com
>Do their lady-charming ways make your female hearts flutter? LOL, no comments.

Tastes differ, so I won't even try to. Schneizel yes, Legato no.

And we're talking about appealing *in fiction*. It's like watching caged tigers - from a 10000 % cooler than physical violence. I do tend to picture myself as the abuser, though. It's all about watching my darker side in action, I suppose.

>>As for Vash not having sympathy for his own species...

Hmm, thanks for reminding me, it's been a while since I watched the show.

Well, gentle he is, but it's his personality.

I suppose what irked me was that he was okay with his species being used as batteries, but if the plants aren't even sentient and if it's a mutual reliance, then it must be okay for Vash to accept that.

Date: 2011-09-20 06:04 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] rex-sun.livejournal.com
Looool idek. It's not like I ever pretend that they are anything but fictional characters. Even so, Schneizel and Legato aren't my style at all. I don't understand either of them one single bit. Like, while I don't agree, I can follow the logic of Knives. I can follow the logic of Lelouch. I semi follow the logic of Suzaku. Legato and Schneizel? Nothing. When they talk nothing sinks in. Like some complex math problem. I just sit and stare and wait for it to be over and hope someone else will explain for me and then I can go, "okay" and then hopefully never encounter it ever again.

[/shrugggggg] So if you can explain either of them in any capacity, I am open. It's not that I find them repugnant, so "taste" isn't an issue. I just genuinely do not understand their goals, motives, and (potentially nonexistent) passions.

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